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Darkobra · Mar 06, 2008, 07:04 AM // 07:04

He's saying actually take the split second to type the extra two characters and say "you".

Luminarus · Mar 06, 2008, 07:07 AM // 07:07

Lol, if its that big a deal I will, but i didnt think anyone really cared, especially considering its on the net where everyone uses shorthands like "u" "lol" etc.

Nightmares Hammer · Mar 06, 2008, 07:08 AM // 07:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luminarus

Leet how? I never mentioned anything about leet, everything i said is fair enough. Flail can be good in pve if ur not gonna have to move, which is rarer for HM. Either way ur gonna need a cancel stance, however frenzy is basically always ready, and its drawback is the most easily mitigated by cancelling whenever ur suffering damage.

Im not saying im leet, hell i havent touched my warrior in about 3 months. However I know from experience that cancel stancing is NOT difficult,

You don't seem to understand what grammar means... Anyway, what your saying is that; you'd rather take Frenzy and cancel it when you start to take damage, instead of taking Flail and being able to keep up a constant IAS which you can easily cancel and reapply in less than a second?

Songbringer · Mar 06, 2008, 07:11 AM // 07:11

You kept saying PvE but like 2 paragraphs you talk about PvP.....

Edit: Leet-Speak is against GWG Terms so obviously some people find it offensive/annoying

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Luminarus · Mar 06, 2008, 07:13 AM // 07:13

Except that if your foe moves, it takes you longer to reach them, if they do move you cant stop themem and then IAS again because you probably wont have the adrenaline, and its use slows down the adrenaline gain of your other skills meaning you can use your other attacks less.

Ill admit flail has its uses, but personally i like frenzy more. In pve they are probably equal, however for PVP frenzy definately wins.

Nightmares Hammer · Mar 06, 2008, 07:16 AM // 07:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luminarus

Except that if your foe moves, it takes you longer to reach them, if they do move you cant stop themem and then IAS again because you probably wont have the adrenaline, and its use slows down the adrenaline gain of your other skills meaning you can use your other attacks less.

Ill admit flail has its uses, but personally i like frenzy more. In pve they are probably equal, however for PVP frenzy definately wins.

Yes, but we're talking about PvE... As for the rest... Wiki adrenaline.

Luminarus · Mar 06, 2008, 08:14 AM // 08:14

Yes wiki it, notice the part that says:

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuildWiki

When you use an adrenal skill, that skill's adrenaline pool is emptied, and all other adrenal skills in your bar lose 25 points.

Hence your skills TAKE LONGER to overall charge up.

Nightmares Hammer · Mar 06, 2008, 08:18 AM // 08:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luminarus

Yes wiki it, notice the part that says:

Hence your skills TAKE LONGER to overall charge up.

Yes, with "For Great Justice!" that would be a problem.... Thanks for the lulz.

**cosyfiep** · Mar 06, 2008, 09:02 AM // 09:02

I know my husband likes to use w/e (for koss) for the stone-whatever build.
I use w/p for some of the shouts. (and I like the sig of return).

of course my husband also is a w/mo and likes to use a hammer build, but he, too, is looking for better builds all the time.

Luminarus · Mar 06, 2008, 09:05 AM // 09:05

a) Did you notice 2 builds, only one had FGJ
b) Once something has reached its max level, whether FGJ is up or not, using another adrenaline skill still results in it recharging in 1 hit

Also, by activating flail, you need to use an auto attack once before ur able to use an adrenaline skill.

Nightmares Hammer · Mar 06, 2008, 09:11 AM // 09:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luminarus

a) Did you notice 2 builds, only one had FGJ
b) Once something has reached its max level, whether FGJ is up or not, using another adrenaline skill still results in it recharging in 1 hit

Also, by activating flail, you need to use an auto attack once before ur able to use an adrenaline skill.

Again with the leet... Its even worse now that you know its breaking the rules...

Having to auto attack once in PvE won't kill you... PvE is very very forgiving...

Vote for a close because:

1. The OP's question has already been answered...
2. Its going to end in flaming (everything does).

Alex Morningstar · Mar 06, 2008, 09:11 AM // 09:11

Here is what I use on my warrior. Your milage may very. Did rather well in the Southern Shiverpeaks tonight.

W/D
Swords: 14 (1+3)
Strength: 9 (+1)
Wind Prayers: 12

[skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]Harrier's Haste[/skill]Disarm[skill]Natural Healing[/skill][skill]Crippling Slash[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Rending Touch[/skill].

Equipment: Furious Blade of Whatever. Str Shield of whatever floats your boat. I have +30's on mine. Dreadnaught's Insignias.

Use enraging charge to wammo your way in. Since they are going to run past you anyway, after you hit and EC ends, use Harrier's Haste to chase them around. Cripslash + Gash + Final Thrust to finish them off.

Use Natural Healing (while not enchanted unless you can't help it) when you need healing if your healers are busy, and use Rending Touch on those pesky anti-warrior slashy slashy attacks. Like Mark of Protection, Protective Spirit, earth-magic enchants Healing Hands, Mystic Regeneration, and the like. Though if you can catch them in the act with Disarm, power to you.

If you are playing with interrupt mesmers/rangers/whatever, watch your spell usage.

Buddhaofwar · Mar 06, 2008, 09:40 AM // 09:40

Wow, this thread went from one kid asking about pve warrior builds, to people, who started out helping said kid, flaming each other over their word choice, and what they think of each other's skills.

OP, have you considered going W/P and using a spear? the added armor penetration from your strength attribute stacks nicely with the quick rate of the spear, and the piercing vs slashing damage. It also allows you to use flail and dolyak signet more freely, as you dont have to worry too much about chasing an opponent down, especially in pve.

Anyway, just a suggestion, as my warrior's main weapon of choice is a greater guardian spear. Good Luck to ya, whatever you decide.

Nightmares Hammer · Mar 06, 2008, 09:51 AM // 09:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddhaofwar

Wow, this thread went from one kid asking about pve warrior builds, to people, who started out helping said kid, flaming each other over their word choice, and what they think of each other's skills.

OP, have you considered going W/P and using a spear? the added armor penetration from your strength attribute stacks nicely with the quick rate of the spear, and the piercing vs slashing damage. It also allows you to use flail and dolyak signet more freely, as you dont have to worry too much about chasing an opponent down, especially in pve.

Anyway, just a suggestion, as my warrior's main weapon of choice is a greater guardian spear. Good Luck to ya, whatever you decide.

It is'nt word choice, "leet-speak" is against the rules...

Warrior spear chuckers are bad... It may seem like a good idea but it is'nt... Their almost as funny as mending wammos. (oh and by the way, i'm W/P for Enduring Harmony...)

Keekles · Mar 06, 2008, 10:42 AM // 10:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightmares Hammer

Frenzy in PvE?? Lol.

I don't see what's wrong with using Frenzy in PvE, I'm always ready to cancel it with rush. In addition, I always have a monk hero pre-prot me with prot spirit, or let my guildies know I'm frenzying.

Luminarus · Mar 06, 2008, 11:30 AM // 11:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightmares Hammer

Again with the leet... Its even worse now that you know its breaking the rules...

Having to auto attack once in PvE won't kill you... PvE is very very forgiving...

Vote for a close because:

1. The OP's question has already been answered...
2. Its going to end in flaming (everything does).

Wow, talk about e-peen. Notice since i realised it, i tried to stop with the "leet-speak", but I screw up once, and its such a big deal, geesh dood, get over yourself.

Also, notice i above a bit, proclaimed that flail is as good as frenzy in pve, whilst in pvp frenzy is better? This was to point out, that i could see your point about flail.

It is obviously a matter of preference, do you prefer flail, or frenzy. Up to the player, no point discussing it anymore.

Nanood · Mar 06, 2008, 11:37 AM // 11:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

Warrior's in PvE - The how-to guide.

You think it's full of PvP stuff?

lol

and this because the msg is too short.. y cant i just have a chuckle when i feel the need to?

Nanood · Mar 06, 2008, 11:43 AM // 11:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Morningstar

Here is what I use on my warrior. Your milage may very. Did rather well in the Southern Shiverpeaks tonight.

W/D
Swords: 14 (1+3)
Strength: 9 (+1)
Wind Prayers: 12

[skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]Harrier's Haste[/skill]Disarm[skill]Natural Healing[/skill][skill]Crippling Slash[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Rending Touch[/skill].

Equipment: Furious Blade of Whatever. Str Shield of whatever floats your boat. I have +30's on mine. Dreadnaught's Insignias.

Use enraging charge to wammo your way in. Since they are going to run past you anyway, after you hit and EC ends, use Harrier's Haste to chase them around. Cripslash + Gash + Final Thrust to finish them off.

Use Natural Healing (while not enchanted unless you can't help it) when you need healing if your healers are busy, and use Rending Touch on those pesky anti-warrior slashy slashy attacks. Like Mark of Protection, Protective Spirit, earth-magic enchants Healing Hands, Mystic Regeneration, and the like. Though if you can catch them in the act with Disarm, power to you.

If you are playing with interrupt mesmers/rangers/whatever, watch your spell usage.

Please I'm not having a stab at yr build i just wondered on the point of having Gash in there without a skill to inflict bleeding first ?

Zeuki · Mar 06, 2008, 11:51 AM // 11:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nanood

Please I'm not having a stab at yr build i just wondered on the point of having Gash in there without a skill to inflict bleeding first ?

Crip Slash causes bleeding.

Darkobra · Mar 06, 2008, 12:21 PM // 12:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nanood

Please I'm not having a stab at yr build i just wondered on the point of having Gash in there without a skill to inflict bleeding first ?

Cripslash now causes bleeding. It just isn't updated on that wiki icon, but updated on the actual wiki.

Mar 06, 2008, 07:11 AM // 07:11	#24
Songbringer Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: EastCoast Profession: E/Me	You kept saying PvE but like 2 paragraphs you talk about PvP..... Edit: Leet-Speak is against GWG Terms so obviously some people find it offensive/annoying 9. Do Not Abuse the English Language This is a message board, not a chat room. DO NOT use "Leet-Speak", slang or chat lingo our forums. Avoid Colloquial writing. This can best be described as "writing in the way that one would speak." It is an informal, slang style of English that should be reserved primarily for speech, as it can seem unprofessional and sloppy in written text. A casual tone can be interpreted positively in person with face-to-face contact, but can be perceived negatively in writing. As such, you have all the time necessary to articulate your posts in a coherent matter. "You" is only two more letters than "u." It will not kill you to type them. Completely illegible posts are subject to moderation - and I can not guarantee their accuracy of 'translating' the author’s original message. Additionally, when one punctuation works instead of 10 (example: ? instead of ?!?!), use one. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...0.php#Language found here Last edited by Songbringer; Mar 06, 2008 at 07:25 AM // 07:25..

Mar 06, 2008, 07:04 AM // 07:04	#21
Darkobra Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Scotland Guild: Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot Profession: E/Me	He's saying actually take the split second to type the extra two characters and say "you".

Mar 06, 2008, 07:07 AM // 07:07	#22
Luminarus Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Guild: Haze of Light [pure] Profession: R/	Lol, if its that big a deal I will, but i didnt think anyone really cared, especially considering its on the net where everyone uses shorthands like "u" "lol" etc.

Mar 06, 2008, 07:13 AM // 07:13	#25
Luminarus Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Guild: Haze of Light [pure] Profession: R/	Except that if your foe moves, it takes you longer to reach them, if they do move you cant stop themem and then IAS again because you probably wont have the adrenaline, and its use slows down the adrenaline gain of your other skills meaning you can use your other attacks less. Ill admit flail has its uses, but personally i like frenzy more. In pve they are probably equal, however for PVP frenzy definately wins.

Mar 06, 2008, 09:02 AM // 09:02	#29
cosyfiep are we there yet? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a land far far away Guild: guild? I am supposed to have a guild? Profession: Rt/	I know my husband likes to use w/e (for koss) for the stone-whatever build. I use w/p for some of the shouts. (and I like the sig of return). of course my husband also is a w/mo and likes to use a hammer build, but he, too, is looking for better builds all the time.

Mar 06, 2008, 09:05 AM // 09:05	#30
Luminarus Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Guild: Haze of Light [pure] Profession: R/	a) Did you notice 2 builds, only one had FGJ b) Once something has reached its max level, whether FGJ is up or not, using another adrenaline skill still results in it recharging in 1 hit Also, by activating flail, you need to use an auto attack once before ur able to use an adrenaline skill.

Mar 06, 2008, 09:11 AM // 09:11	#32
Alex Morningstar Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2006 Guild: Team Asshat [Hat] leader - [GR] Alliance Profession: Mo/	Here is what I use on my warrior. Your milage may very. Did rather well in the Southern Shiverpeaks tonight. W/D Swords: 14 (1+3) Strength: 9 (+1) Wind Prayers: 12 [skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]Harrier's Haste[/skill]Disarm[skill]Natural Healing[/skill][skill]Crippling Slash[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Rending Touch[/skill]. Equipment: Furious Blade of Whatever. Str Shield of whatever floats your boat. I have +30's on mine. Dreadnaught's Insignias. Use enraging charge to wammo your way in. Since they are going to run past you anyway, after you hit and EC ends, use Harrier's Haste to chase them around. Cripslash + Gash + Final Thrust to finish them off. Use Natural Healing (while not enchanted unless you can't help it) when you need healing if your healers are busy, and use Rending Touch on those pesky anti-warrior slashy slashy attacks. Like Mark of Protection, Protective Spirit, earth-magic enchants Healing Hands, Mystic Regeneration, and the like. Though if you can catch them in the act with Disarm, power to you. If you are playing with interrupt mesmers/rangers/whatever, watch your spell usage.

Mar 06, 2008, 09:40 AM // 09:40	#33
Buddhaofwar Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2008 Guild: Flying Gophers Profession: W/	Wow, this thread went from one kid asking about pve warrior builds, to people, who started out helping said kid, flaming each other over their word choice, and what they think of each other's skills. OP, have you considered going W/P and using a spear? the added armor penetration from your strength attribute stacks nicely with the quick rate of the spear, and the piercing vs slashing damage. It also allows you to use flail and dolyak signet more freely, as you dont have to worry too much about chasing an opponent down, especially in pve. Anyway, just a suggestion, as my warrior's main weapon of choice is a greater guardian spear. Good Luck to ya, whatever you decide.